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Posted on December 13 at 6:02 p.m.
27, thanks for the detailed response and I will remember it. I don't agree that FL will mandate sewers. I don't agree that sewers are necessary. I do agree that all politicians lie. However, what I am referring to is the claim that Tucker made about photographic evidence about asbestos being placed on the Glon property.
I don't know if Mr. Neylon was involved in any lawsuits other than he may have believed in the cause. He would be foolish if he was involved and said he had not been. That is easily refutable. It is not about the money for me. I can afford the sewer connection; it is about the quality of sea water around us and the quality of life here. I lived in CT for 20 years with septic systems and well water. We had sixteen miles of coastline on the Long Island Sound, Madison CT. The town had a sewer avoidance policy. It worked and the beaches in the 20 years I lived there were never closed. Down the road in a town called West Haven, look it up if you like, constant beach closures due to sewer over flow.
I believe Butch Neylon when he says sewers are not necessary and dangerous. He is correct. I have had septic systems for the past 20 years on 4 different homes and never had a problem. What is a fact is when and if sewers are installed, we will see an increase in density, a constant state of construction for redevelopment and beach closures due to red tide and bacteria. Remember this blog 27.
By the way, I was referring to Joey and Marcofacts when I used the word vile. People speaking out in protest and in frustration is not vile. It may be emotional and immature at times, but protest is not vile. Ignoring the desires of the people to have a referendum on this issue is vile. The only reason that this and the past council would not let this be decided by referendum is because it would have been voted down.
Posted on December 13 at 1:55 p.m.
27_year.../Marcofacts, Joeywalnuts, Why is it that you guys talk about vile behavior and then you display it? Joey, you are a fool to write such insulting things. If any of you were really concerned about the island you would realize that sewers are far more of a threat to this island than septic systems. I don't need anyone to tell me that, I have lived on septic systems in CT for 20 years and well water on the same property. Septic systems work more safely in coastal areas than sewers. That is a fact and it is irrefutable.
The additional reality is that sewers will allow for greater density and larger homes on a standard building lot. I don't why you folks are so wed to the idea of sewers unless you gain financially from sewer installation. Do you hate mongers have investments on the island that will benefit from sewers?
I don't recall any of the pro septic system candidates lying on any issue. What lies did they tell? I can remember a current city council member lying. Can you?
Posted on December 13 at 12:33 p.m.
Yes avenger i do think that this is a possibility. I trust my wife, I don't trust the people that run celebrate marco or the current council. They have earned our lack of trust.
Posted on December 13 at 9:52 a.m.
Montel and the author of this article have their head's in the toilet. It would not surprise me if the celebrate Marco crowd distributed the questions to their slate of candidates prior to the debate. I hope this did not happen. I don't want to believe they are that dishonest.
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Posted on November 29 at 10:42 a.m.
Marcofacts, I have been in the search business for a long time and many companies pick the wrong guy. 165 candidates, why not say 300 million since that is the population of the US. Do you really think that this guy did a good job here? I doubt that the search guy had 165 candidates. As to why they picked him, I am surprised. He has been mired in conflict for 2 years, misled the people of this city, been deceitful, he needs a public relations person to spin his message. I am thrilled that Naples saw him as a good candidate. We can debate this on here if you like, but it has all been said. The asbestos debacle, the sewer fees being padded with costs that are not legally allowed to be passed on to the new users, no testing to support the sewer project. The list is long and embarrassing to him and this city. Just because Naples picked him does not make him a good city manager. He was the last man standing when Marco picked him.
We are all sure that your contributions to the city, Marcofacts, are substantial and it is obvious that you have had encounters with Moss. Politicians are engaging people and Moss is a politician. I am sure he smooth and has charisma. I never met the man and have no need to. I can look at his record and decide. He needs to go and we need a change. It is that simple Marcofacts. "It's not personal, it’s only business", to steal a line from my favorite movie.
On Bye, Bill Moss: Good-natured ribbing, praise showered at farewell luncheon
Posted on November 29 at 10:25 a.m.
This council needs a long long long vacation. Please take off through the holidays, all of them, Christmas, Valentines Day, and St. Patrick’s Day. This way we can have intelligent people having intelligent discussions whose integrity and motivation have not been undermined by special interests. Let the new council deal with these issues.
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Posted on November 29 at 10:16 a.m.
does this guy ever deal in facts? The state has no plans to require that the island have sewers. This would happen if we were having a septic tank issue which we are not. 2 septic tank issues in 2 years. What is the real issue Farmer, do you have a property that would benefit from sewers? If you did any research you would know that sewers pollute, septic systems do not. This is just more manure for the compost pile on Farmer's funny farm. When will NDN fire you?
On The Farmer File: If sewer program stops, some may raise stink over cost
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Posted on November 29 at 9:46 a.m.
hysterical, this mediocre city manager spent us to the poor house and these morons can laugh. Good luck Naples, it was a nice place. Little wonder Lisa Douglass was emotional, most qualified executives don't need a public relations manager to say hello for them. Don't worry Lisa, Moss will make Naples a mess and need you too spin his misdeeds for him.
On Bye, Bill Moss: Good-natured ribbing, praise showered at farewell luncheon
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Posted on November 28 at 10:45 p.m.
The biggest waste of taxpayers money was Moss's salary.
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Posted on December 14 at 9:05 a.m.
Montel, I think he was a bit strong in making his point, but he was short of vile.
Here is what you are leaving out when you quote the FL authorities regarding sewers. In absence of a monitoring programs for septic systems, then sewers are preferred. Key West is a limestone island, no sand. Septic systems are designed to leach through sand to cleanse the waste water. The solid waste stays in the tank and decomposes through a bacterial process and is then pumped out. I am missing something when you and the others prefer sewers. The island has had 2 septic issues in 2 yeas, no pollution in the canals. Each home has a tank that will contain the solid waste on the individual property. That tank should be required to be pumped every 2 years at the minimum. I have mine pumped every year. The tank is made of concrete and is not at risk from tidal flow and high water.
Sewers will transport hundred of millions of gallons annually of solid and liquid waste through 100's of miles of plastic pipes that are sitting in a mix of sand and water pumped by over 100 lift stations that are subject to power failure to a treatment facility. This process is far more risky than self contained tanks on each property.
The only people that were permitted back on Sanibel early after Charlie were the people on septic. What am I missing here folks? This project is unnecessary as far as I can see. So please Montel and all of the others, let’s have the debate based on fact why you prefer sewers. I see no facts from any of you.
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